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I were 17, I'd learn how to build LLMs from scratch

ID
17389
Status
summarized
Published
24 Aug 2026, 4:38 AM
Fetched
26 Aug 2026, 5:01 AM
Provider
Hacker News
Category
dev-community
Original URL
https://twitter.com/paulg/status/2091544343589060625
Source URL
https://hnrss.org/best

Summary

Score
6.0
Created
26 Aug 2026, 5:02 AM
Tags
Audience
developersvibe_codersai-ml-learnerssaas-founders

What happened

Paul Graham tweeted that if he were 17, he'd learn to build LLMs from scratch and train the most powerful models he could on available hardware, explicitly saying he would NOT start a startup yet—instead building foundational knowledge that would later yield better startup ideas. Yann LeCun replied that he'd instead try to figure out why LLMs can write essays but not clean a bedroom, then study methods and architectures beyond LLMs that can learn physical tasks.

Why it matters

For builders deciding where to invest time, Graham's concrete advice is to prioritize deep technical understanding of LLM internals over premature startup formation—suggesting that hands-on model building and training, even on limited hardware, produces better startup opportunities later. LeCun's counterpoint flags a real research gap: current LLMs lack physical-world learning, which is a direction for anyone considering next-generation AI architectures.

Discussion angle

Compare Graham's 'build deep foundations first' stance with LeCun's 'go beyond LLMs to physical-world learning'—which path actually makes sense for Malaysian builders with limited GPU access today?

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